Commentary: Ignorancesquared

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Before we get to the commentary, I'd like to bring up some relevant information. wwwarea seems to idolize realitysquared, namely for a journal he made in regards to cyberbulling. This may or may not have influenced the admin's decision on the report tickets and the removal of a bulk of the screencaps that represent wwwarea's bad behavior. With that said, let's get into this.

Note: This journal does not mention anyone directly.

TRANSLATION: This is secretly a response to a journal a certain incarnate of evil making a response to the removal of those dang dirty screencaps.

If anyone who isn't blocked from me wishes to reply for an argument, then please do it in a civil way. Personality, I suggest notes.

"Because then no one could identify comments that could prove that I'd be in the wrong."

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After seeing a reaction, I've seen more idiotic comments about it.. And now some people think I support "pedophiles". And that they think the admins were "stupid".

Funny how you say that, yet in two comments that you've hidden on a journal you made (no wonder you're so pissed about the screencaps), you've said this.

"I might've 'defended' a "pedo", but only for the life, not for the acts of real pain involving real people."

You've gone on a tangent about how pedophilia isn't a severe offense because it involves fictional characters, which implies that you support said actions in some way. 

I do not support pedo acts (And if I did somehow, then I am sorry), but I was worried about a life of someone that might of asked for a kind of fictional thing that can make them think of so.

If you were truly worried, you would've been more concerned with how said pedo would go about his fantasies, and whether or not he would let it take over his mindset and cause him to make the wrong decision.

The only thing I'll say is that I do NOT care whenever someone makes a fictional thing about.. minor characters in certain situations, because why? It doesn't involve real people and I could care less about it.

Let me put this into perspective, the "fictional" pedo tendencies could overcome certain individuals, and they could attempt to make it a reality. Like PaulandAmy.

<I do have a right to an opinion right? This may also be a moral argument.

Following your most recent actions, and considering how you get soar over negative reviews of Alpha and Omega, screenshots and people who share my mindset, it's hard to respect your opinion.

I'm not saying they are allowed to on here because I am not clear. But that was a moral concern here.

Then why did you get so worked up over others calling out a certain person for exhibiting such actions?

Now for the main thing involving my right to defend others:
Regardless of who, or who might of break the rules (I would like to note that if fictional images involving minors can be very risky, questionable to law and site rules, so I suggest avoiding it on here), I am allowed to care for the person if I wanted to. For the sake of a life. Regardless of what the person does.

Ok, but it'd just make things worse for you, since you're basically saying it's ok to delve into fantasies that'd most likely make those having said fantasies into potential dangers to society.

And I have the right to defend and give my opinion.

"Although I abuse that privilege by acting like an immature dick and expecting others to share my pain."

Honestly if I somehow defended the person's action of requesting (Or worse, possible harassment) something and it was against the rules due to the content, then I will say sorry, for DA. - Note: the 'and' is a requirement.

That's what I did. And now people assume that I'm breaking the rules just because I defended someone that could have a 'questionable' identity.

No, people claim you're breaking the rules by instigating conflicts, stalking people and acting like an outright horrible person over opinions.

However, there is NO such thing as a rule (I could be wrong) involving that.

It all depends on how you go about it.

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Anyway, here is the main "problem".
Some people seem to think that 'two wrongs make a right': That if someone breaks the rules, it somehow makes it "OK" to encourage harassment toward the person.

If you're referring to the screencaps, we were only showing proof of your bad behavior, though the admins were too ignorant to see that and they ignored solid evidence that you're the true threat.

In other words: Some people tend to think that if someone violates the policy; it thus, makes it "OK" to violate the policy back.
When in reality, it doesn't.

Yet you're apparently abusing the policy by going after every last snapshot and acting like the world is an unforgiving terrain. You're probably wondering why I've brought up the snapshots so frequently at this point. Just wait.

DA still doesn't allow people to upload snapshots about others in certain situations regardless and considering for me, all I did was share my care for others regardless of who and that I was trying to defend myself.

Though for all we know, you focused on getting the screencaps down because they show evidence of your bad behavior. Oh, as for defending yourself, acting like an egotistical dick to your enemies doesn't help your case, and by insisting that you're still the "lovable victim" in this, you'd probably do better on Tumblr.

I'll admit, I might of been a little too harsh but it could be understandable.

Harsh is an understatement.

I also did not do what I did like the time at Fanpop. That's a different site, and I violated the rules there and went way too overboard in some cases, etc.

I never uploaded snapshots about others this past 2 months, and I learned my lesson to not do that. Things like that can also cause harm.
And in my opinion, that should not ever be allowed on this site as this does nothing but causes harm or promotes it.

Or it could, you know, show evidence of one's shitty behavior. Beats the hell out of relying on the news or the dictionary. This is the internet after all.

Does anyone remember the time DA and some others tried to tell you that snapshots or other works directed at users were not allowed?


Ah, realitysquared's journal. Ironic how you rely on him for guidance, even though he has as much of an understanding on copyright and site administration as SpleeNfat did on trolling.

I willQUOTE too, and highlight some of the possible important notes here.
Also will bold some stuff.

And I'll be focusing on what wwwarea underlined.
While the actions which make up cyberbullying can vary depending on who you are talking with or what website you are on at the time, as far as we here at deviantART are concerned the act of cyberbullying involves a range of behavior from hostile and aggressive communications, to threats, sexual remarks, hate speech, ganging up on victims by making them the subject of ridicule or humiliation.
Though what have I and my friends done? Post screencaps.

Hostile and Aggressive communications: You've stalked the shit out of theANTI Alpha and Omega group, flamed negative A&O reviews and attacked my friend for posting a link to a negative A&O review.

Threats: You've threatened to get me and my friends banned.

Ridicule and humiliation: You've pretty much done this to yourself, by responding the way you did.
What we call cyberbullying-by-proxy is a situation where rather than directly confront a victim, a bully instead uses a deviation, journal, Group or blog in an attempt to publicly humiliate their intendedTARGET or to otherwise direct negative attention towards their victim with the intention of causing other people to do their bullying and tormenting for them.
Because it's not like the screencaps showed evidence of ill behavior.
Deviations which are used in cyberbully-by-proxy attempts typicallyTARGET their victims in one of several ways, the primary manner involving the taking and publishing of screenshots. These screenshots can display private notes, deviations, or public commentary such as comments or journals and often contain demeaning statements in the descriptions, mocking annotations directly on the screenshot or sometimes both. Many of these screenshots are the result of deliberate efforts of the bully to "bait" an overreaction or dramatic (and therefore amusing) response from their intendedTARGET just for the purpose of taking the screenshot for later public humiliation; in some cases even going to far as to screenshot and make efforts to mock those who block them before the baiting gets the desired response.
Ok, but what if the screencaps display bullying from the commenters themselves? It'd honestly help to make filing reports much easier.
Regardless of how the screenshot has been obtained, edited or otherwise treated the obvious purpose of the deviation is to mock, taunt, insult or humiliate the victim publicly and this purpose is often enhanced by sharing the deviation through Groups, blogs or journals specifically designed for this purpose.
The screencaps have been kept on dA (though they've been moved to a new private site). But, what if the spreading is only done to spread awareness of a user who'd cause harm to others?
As over time these types of submissions have become more and more focused on the harassment and mocking of other individuals, both here on deviantART as well as on other websites, we have been forced to review our previous lenient approach to how we handle them and as a result of that review we will no longer be tolerating the submission these types of screenshot deviations.
"Especially if they, shock and horror, display evidence of behavior that the site is against."
Because of this change we urge all members who may have these submissions in their deviantART gallery to remove them voluntarily rather than to have them removed by our staff and have that removal associated with your profile records.
"Because the the fuckers could roam untouched!"
While our current focus at addressing cyberbullying is currently directed at deviations we are not ignoring journals, blogs, or Groups which may be designed for the same purpose. Currently we will be evaluating these on a case-by-case basis as weCONTINUEto review and assess our current policies towards bullying and harassment.
Doing actual work? What witchcraft...?

Me being attacked for standing up for myself or giving my own opinion out involving other people just because your current moral beliefs are violated, is cyberbullying, and harmful.

"The idea that I'm wrong is bigotry. Next."-wwwarea

What I did, didn't break the rules on that idea from me.

Because assholish behavior is highly commendable apparently.

But the ones who made content to attack me, did. Even if I did break the rules. <Which I would be sorry if so.

Let's be honest, you're just upset because we've proven that you're far from redemption. That's the vibe I'm getting from this. I think you should grow a pair and stop taking the internet so seriously.


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Looks like wwwarea made a stamp about negative journal in that case he should be banned himself since he makes negative journal directed at people too.